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winches
Dec 4, 2005 11:46:25 GMT -5
Post by Jon W on Dec 4, 2005 11:46:25 GMT -5
$599 is a nice price... I paid a little more than that (I think I paid $650, but I didn't pay shipping). I assume you bought the viking line separately... If you still have the steel line for the M8000 and want to get rid of it I'd consider buying it to backup/replace the one I've put a kink in... Let me know.
Is money well spent the first time you (or someone you're wheeling with) need it...
At least 3 of my recoveries this year were other people...
JW
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Post by baseshakers on Dec 5, 2005 9:16:59 GMT -5
the only question about the steel line is whether warn will still uphold it's lifetime warranty is i use a non-warn brand winch rope. i know that it doesn't matter to functionality, but the lifetime warranty is one of the reasons i chose the warn, so i don't want to have to forgo that. i am thinking about just putting the steel back on if i have to send it in, but maybe it doesn't matter. anyway, if i can still get the warranty with the viking on there, then i will gladly sell you the cable.
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winches
Dec 5, 2005 21:22:06 GMT -5
Post by Jon W on Dec 5, 2005 21:22:06 GMT -5
I'd call Warn and ask... Or you can have my old line w/ the kinks in it.  I would be surprised if they won't warrenty it with a replacement line. They may not replace the line though... JW |
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Post by baseshakers on Dec 6, 2005 8:48:19 GMT -5
yeah, i don't expect them to warranty the line, but as long as the rest of it is covered, i'd be happy. sound like a plan, i'll sell you my new cable, and then keep your old one in my basement just in case!
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winches
Dec 6, 2005 17:50:53 GMT -5
Post by Kevin W. on Dec 6, 2005 17:50:53 GMT -5
Lifetime Warranty?
when my 9.5 ti pooped, they made it clear they were fixing it because of the 1-year warranty.... hmmm
maybe parts for lifetime, but labor is only 1-year?
Also, I think they would NOT cover the warranty with synthetic rope. They may BS you that it has different "heat" capacities, which affect the cooling of the winch. This is one of the cons of using synthetic in the first place, is that the winch can reach something like 400 degrees when powering in/out and many ropes are NOT rated to such a degree.
ORO and some of the others specifically have winch line rated to handle HIGH heat... I would get one of those!
If you ever have a warranty issue, just remove the rope...
I mailed mine in rope-less.
KEV
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Post by DOUG® on Dec 7, 2005 7:18:46 GMT -5
Warn does offer it's own Synthetic winch line. Very expensive. $600.00+
IIRC Warn voided the warranty on their winches when running anything but cable.
Not sure if this applies to their own line.
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Post by baseshakers on Dec 7, 2005 8:48:14 GMT -5
yeah, that's what i heard as well. i think i can either send it in rope-less or with john's old cable. talking to people on another forum, it sounds like the only time the "insulating" capacity of the rope would hurt the winch would be during a long descent, where the winch is constantly under load. or something like that. basically warn is most likely being overly cautious, so i shouldn't have to worry about it, but they will void me if they see synthetic on there. well, warn winches are supposed to last forever!
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winches
Dec 7, 2005 12:11:59 GMT -5
Post by ZAEDOCK on Dec 7, 2005 12:11:59 GMT -5
the winch can reach something like 400 degrees when powering in/out and many ropes are NOT rated to such a degree. No way in heck a winch gets that hot. More like 200-250 on a hot summer day, and only with continued use. The motor oil in your engine has a flash point of around 400 *F. The wiring would have burned up and melted the insulation long before that too. |
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winches
Dec 7, 2005 15:51:57 GMT -5
Post by Kevin W. on Dec 7, 2005 15:51:57 GMT -5
Read in several places that the winch can be around 300-350, which is why you want the rope to be at least 400 degree resistant. I guess it could be a marketing thing But then again, I'd rather not risk it. KEV |
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winches
Dec 9, 2005 20:05:08 GMT -5
Post by DOUG® on Dec 9, 2005 20:05:08 GMT -5
the winch can reach something like 400 degrees when powering in/out and many ropes are NOT rated to such a degree. No way in heck a winch gets that hot. More like 200-250 on a hot summer day, and only with continued use. The motor oil in your engine has a flash point of around 400 *F. The wiring would have burned up and melted the insulation long before that too. So I sent Warn an email regarding the temp. issue and this is their reply. |
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winches
Dec 10, 2005 22:42:47 GMT -5
Post by Jon W on Dec 10, 2005 22:42:47 GMT -5
They do not have the data?
That anwer smells like BS to me...
I'm sure they test their winches and have a very good idea how hot the winch may get...
If the motor draws up to 400 amps then that is up to ~4800W... There is no way they can't figure out how hot it would get!
JW
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winches
Dec 13, 2005 8:04:47 GMT -5
Post by Kevin W. on Dec 13, 2005 8:04:47 GMT -5
Yes, but their is also no way they are going to give out specific information on how hot it gets.
If one happens to get 20 degrees hoter then they say, melts a rope, kills a kid... they get sued for it.
So, I'm not at all surprised that they didn't give out specific info on that.
KEV
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winches
Dec 13, 2005 19:47:30 GMT -5
Post by Jon W on Dec 13, 2005 19:47:30 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm not surprised either, actually....
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winches
Dec 16, 2005 17:11:32 GMT -5
Post by DOUG® on Dec 16, 2005 17:11:32 GMT -5
Yeah... I'm not surprised either, actually.... I was surprised that they actually responded to my question!! |
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