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Post by jrcabbral on Jun 24, 2006 15:30:00 GMT -5
Is anyone running the Nth Degree long arm kit? I am going to go long arm but I do not know if I want to use RE with a stinger or just go Nth?
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Post by extremeex1 on Jun 25, 2006 14:39:08 GMT -5
john i know a bunch of people running it that love it. and it seems to work really well from what i have seen. a couple of the chickens i run with use it and it flexes really well and rides great on the road. the only thing that i have noticed about it is that there has been some issues about it breaking in certian areas but nth is good about getting it fixed and they are continuosly updating the system.
TJ
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Post by Ruocco on Jun 26, 2006 6:23:04 GMT -5
Hey there Cabbral,
I just had a slider failure... slider is under rear diff and is attached to the stinger to the TC and so on. Nth told me they fixed the design flaw but still had me pay 168.00 for the replacement part. From what I have heard the nth kit is the shiznizzle. If I were going long arm it would be nth even with the recent slider failure. Hope all is well out there... I believe Pat was looking to talk to you.
Ruocco
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Post by jrcabbral on Jun 26, 2006 20:15:22 GMT -5
I hear lots of good on the nth. what failed on the slider? I pmed and emaild Pat but I have not heard back from her.
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Post by Kevin W. on Jun 26, 2006 21:25:26 GMT -5
Did you read the thread over on ROF about several moab failures back in 2005?
I briefly read the thread (it was like 10 pages long or something)... anyway, what I remember is that people were suggesting because of the way the stinger works, you get a torsional twisting of the axle between the "center" of the axle compared with the "ends" of the axle. The lowers are attached at the ends, and the equivalent of the uppers (the stinger) is attached at the center point.
The stock setup has both the attachment points at the ends of the axle - nothing related to "twist" is near the differential. Anyway, a few people beleive they had ring + pinon problems because of this twisting action.
Just something to research futher...
Also, I can't get over the price. How much is the long arm? Like 3500-4000 bucks? I think if you compare that to the other three popular kits, RE, Clayton and Full Traction, they are all over 1,000 bucks less.
I have trouble legitamizing switching to a long arm kit at all, especially when you already have a short arm kit in.
Is your TJ your daily driver?
KEV
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Post by jrcabbral on Jun 26, 2006 22:38:25 GMT -5
I read that a while back and I have asked as to the root cause but have never had a productive response. I raised my questions on the board and found myself with several defensive pms.
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Post by extremeex1 on Jun 27, 2006 20:33:10 GMT -5
john they astill aren't really sure what actually caused the failures of all those carriers. i know two of them and it was really wierd.
Kev why wouldn't you want long arms on a trail only rig. as far as i can tell there really isn't any downside to having the long arms on a lifted jeep. you getting a better ride on the road and much better articulation and droop on the trail.
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Post by Kevin W. on Jun 27, 2006 20:55:20 GMT -5
john they astill aren't really sure what actually caused the failures of all those carriers. i know two of them and it was really wierd. Kev why wouldn't you want long arms on a trail only rig. as far as i can tell there really isn't any downside to having the long arms on a lifted jeep. you getting a better ride on the road and much better articulation and droop on the trail. Oh, the only reason to not have long arms on a trail rig is COST! Its hard (in my mind at least) to justify 4,000 bucks on just a new suspension for a "beater" trail rig. I would think you could 4,000 in better ways on a vehicle that's only for the trail. If its a daily driver, then it might make more sense to have a great riding suspension. Maybe its just the damn expense. I'm becoming a cheap bastid. I'd rather spend 1,000 bucks on a new fenders (or just cut the stock ones up for free) and fit larger tires without lifting it any more. KEV |
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Post by ZAEDOCK on Jun 28, 2006 6:02:35 GMT -5
$4000.00!!!  For a suspension? That's flip'n crazy. I just spent $67.00 ea for two new front leaf springs. John, buy a welder and make your own suspension. Heck, I could probably build a decent buggy with a $4K budget ;D I hear good things about the FabTech LA kit. The control arms dwarf anything I've seen. I think there's an ad in JP magazine. |
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Post by mika on Jun 28, 2006 13:41:23 GMT -5
Which spring did you go with? I just got a couple of Black Diamond rear 3.5" spring and was really impressed, millitary wrap, large 1.5" dia bushings, really stout and not too stiff.
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Post by extremeex1 on Jun 28, 2006 13:57:17 GMT -5
ok kev i was confused with what you were saying it sounded like you didn't think LA were worth it. and yes the full on kit is expensive from nth. but you do get alot of trick items that you don't get with other suspensions. i am personally going to get the TNT long arm kit when he comes out with it in the next few months.
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Post by RubiconRider on Jun 28, 2006 17:08:49 GMT -5
I got the nth LA 4" kit done two months ago...it'smy daily driver and I wheel every couple of weeks.
It's as good if not better than stock on the roads...it flexes well, good droop...everything they advertise and then some...you do pay for some over engineered stuff...the disco's are about as good as they get.
I got my Jeep used...so it was like $4K less than a new Jeep...that's how I justifed it.
But for a trail only rig, unless you are competing, I wouldn't do it.
You are paying a premium cuz it is one of the best kits out there (IMO)...A chevy gets you to work just as well as a Mercedes, IYKWIM.
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Post by jrcabbral on Jun 28, 2006 20:32:26 GMT -5
Joe
I have a welder. Just added some more to my cage and it would be fun to make my own, In favor of Nth, I think that thier engineers are from Jeep so they understand the flaws of the TJ and I am sure that the suspension works but $4k is a lot. I think that I am going to take a little from every one. Nth stinger, RE belly pan and make my own lower control arms. I can mostlikely put it together for about $1000 and it would be better than the RE kit.
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Post by ZAEDOCK on Jun 28, 2006 20:46:15 GMT -5
Which spring did you go with? I just got a couple of Black Diamond rear 3.5" spring and was really impressed, millitary wrap, large 1.5" dia bushings, really stout and not too stiff. I went with the same springs I was already running. 4" Pro Comp. 10 years of taking a beating made me stick with 'em  |
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Post by beaker on Jun 28, 2006 20:46:45 GMT -5
RE belly pan also forces you to use the RE lower control arm mounts, not sure if you intended that. If not, take a look at the Teraflex bellyup.
-mike
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For a suspension? That's flip'n crazy.
