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Post by DOUG® on Sept 13, 2009 6:45:53 GMT -5
Not sure you intended your link to go to Amazon.....
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Post by Scott on Sept 13, 2009 6:58:57 GMT -5
hmmm, that's weird.
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Post by dvm on Sept 14, 2009 15:57:38 GMT -5
Looks like most rocker guards / sliders are tub or body mount (verses frame). I was looking into a stronger set up than I currently have. I now have Smittybuilt tube side step type that bolt to the frame. They are bending up a bit from the frequent hits (I have a 2" lift, soon to be increased), but I like the idea of the frame mount.
Are frame mounted sliders less desirable (or non-existant) because they take away a good bit of clearance? I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern?
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Post by Scott on Sept 14, 2009 16:41:24 GMT -5
Looks like most rocker guards / sliders are tub or body mount (verses frame). I was looking into a stronger set up than I currently have. I now have Smittybuilt tube side step type that bolt to the frame. They are bending up a bit from the frequent hits (I have a 2" lift, soon to be increased), but I like the idea of the frame mount. Are frame mounted sliders less desirable (or non-existant) because they take away a good bit of clearance? I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern? The tubes you have take a lot away from ground clearance. Not to mention their basically for show or just as a step. The ones that are mentioned above take about 3/16" away from your ground clearance. The body mount mounted sliders (again the ones mentioned above) are probably the strongest and preferred. but there are some that don't use the body mounts and are plenty strong. Some people even make there own out of 2x2 or 2x3 angle iron and even those can be strong enough, not to mention cheap.
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Post by Chris75 on Sept 14, 2009 17:09:23 GMT -5
When I was first started looking into rocker protection, I was looking at Body Armor sold by Lou (which have great reviews). However it appears that it might be best to also run the Rubicon style rocker protection to protect against potential deflection.
Would this be the case??
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Post by ZAEDOCK on Sept 14, 2009 17:59:35 GMT -5
Are frame mounted sliders less desirable (or non-existant) because they take away a good bit of clearance? I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern? Frame mounted sliders are less desirable because they offer less clearance and are typically pretty thin (compared to a tub mounted slider). In a way, many of the body mounted sliders are actually frame mounted. My Poison Spyder's bolt to the side of my tub, but also go under the body and are supported by the body mount, which sits right on the frame. The front part of my cage then bolts to the floor/rocker knockers for a nice frame tie in. I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern? If anything, the added rigidity of the sliders will reinforce your body. The body of my Heep is pretty beat and the rockers hold up just fine.
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Post by johnsxj on Sept 14, 2009 19:14:34 GMT -5
Are frame mounted sliders less desirable (or non-existant) because they take away a good bit of clearance? I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern? Frame mounted sliders are less desirable because they offer less clearance and are typically pretty thin (compared to a tub mounted slider). In a way, many of the body mounted sliders are actually frame mounted. My Poison Spyder's bolt to the side of my tub, but also go under the body and are supported by the body mount, which sits right on the frame. The front part of my cage then bolts to the floor/rocker knockers for a nice frame tie in. I am also a bit concerned that the old slightly rusted 1998 body may not support the hits and all I would do is more body damage? Is that not a concern? If anything, the added rigidity of the sliders will reinforce your body. The body of my Heep is pretty beat and the rockers hold IT up just fine. Fixed your post for ya Joe ;D
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Post by ZAEDOCK on Sept 15, 2009 8:16:13 GMT -5
Yeah, that's a more accurate description of my rockers. ;D Rocker Knockers > Jeep Tub
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Post by ZAEDOCK on Sept 15, 2009 8:37:25 GMT -5
Save money and just don't fix it. Rocker protection is a nice trail tool: you can jack off them, pivot off rocks and trees, and pull your rig back over with them.
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Post by dvm on Sept 15, 2009 15:45:10 GMT -5
Thanks for all the info guys. I decided to loose the nerf bars and upgrade. I like the Poison Spider, but in looking over the install instructions, having to loosen up the body mounts led me to my other choice. There are very few bolt on my rig that aren't rust encrusted, and the thought of spending a day breaking body mount bolts doesn't sound fun. Looks like when installing the PS brand, you are half way to a body lift install, which could be a good combined job.
I ended up ordering the AEV brand, which I found out are now made by ARB. Not sure if it is necessary, but I ordered a rocker guard paint protector pad, not to protect the paint, but more to make a tighter fit, as I have some rust bulges.
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Post by Scott on Sept 15, 2009 19:31:38 GMT -5
but I ordered a rocker guard paint protector pad, not to protect the paint, but more to make a tighter fit, as I have some rust bulges. Instead of those I just used a spray can of rubberized undercoating. ;D The rubber like you bought can trap water.
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Post by 84cj on Sept 28, 2009 20:26:44 GMT -5
www.tomken.com/detail.php?id=195I have these and my jeep loves to balance on them. They are mounted with the nice looking bolts but they also are attached from the backside with 5 or 6 large bolts as well. They work with a highlift jack and make for a nice spot to rest your foot. Curtis Comes power coated black and has lasted
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Post by RedLightRubi on Nov 14, 2009 17:46:26 GMT -5
Just a thought, I got an older set of PSC rocker knockers from a friend. (never painted or installed). I had them beadblasted clean, then primed/painted them. My new project is going a different direction so these are for sale. Let me know if interested.
Nick
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